How Do Vintage Twin Hose Regs Work? #askmark #scuba


How Do Vintage Twin Hose Regs Work? #askmark

Alec Peirce Scuba @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

@Yggdrasil42
#askmark How did those cool old timey two-hose regulators work? They look like a rebreather loop so maybe one-way valves? And why were they used?

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#ASKMARK Hello Mark, while out diving recently I talked to an experienced diver who was diving with twins but did not have any manifold on them, i.e. each cylinder had a first stage with a primary and an SPG. One cylinder had the low pressure inflator for his BC. What are the pros and cons of a manifold setup versus independent twins?

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00:00 Introduction
00:40 What's the point of independent twins?
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#ASKMARK Hello Mark, while out diving recently I talked to an experienced diver who was diving with twins but did not have any manifold on them, i.e. each cylinder had a first stage with a primary and an SPG. One cylinder had the low pressure inflator for his BC. What are the pros and cons of a manifold setup versus independent twins?

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00:00 Introduction
00:40 What's the point of independent twins?
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Alec Peirce Scuba
Alec Peirce Scuba
8 months ago

Hi Mark. For your fans who what to see what double hose diving is all about, watch is video from our Sea Hunt Forever 2019 event in Silver Springs, Florida, USA. Where the TV show Sea Hunt with Mike Nelson shot many underwater segments. https://youtu.be/G9O2zr2dWLs. Double hose regulators, tanks and gear are still used by divers of any age. As you mentioned the modern Kraken, it is out of production for the time being but there are vintage regs divers can still buy and get serviced even in the “mild” UK waters. Another great show, Kevin and both watch your series so keep them coming my friend.
Alec Peirce

Joseph dracula
Joseph dracula
8 months ago

👍😎

PeterJulianPhotos
PeterJulianPhotos
8 months ago

#ASKMARK have you seen the new Seac Modular BCD – would love to see a review on them compared to other similar priced units.

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Reply to  PeterJulianPhotos
8 months ago

I trust SEAC as a brand, I’ve been to their HQ and used their gear over the years. I haven’t used the Modular yet but, it looks like a decent wing BCD.

If you’re looking for a technical backplate and wing then I’d recommend looking at some of the more technical brands. But as a recreational BCD it ticks a lot of boxes.

Jeff Conley
Jeff Conley
8 months ago

2 Hose regulators basically operate the same as modern single hose regulators. They have a first and a second stage.
SCUBA regulators have changed very little since the 1960’s. First stages are still unbalanced piston, balanced piston and balanced diaphram. The only real change has been the introduction of the balanced 2nd Stage in the 1980’s. Everything else is just marketing ploys by the manufacturers.

Jonah Casimir
Jonah Casimir
8 months ago

#askmark

Hey Mark, I’m wondering your thoughts on pony bottles/alternate air sources and their use at an advanced recreational level. I’m a great lakes diver and a very average dive is between 60-100 feet deep and anywhere 40-50 degrees Fahrenheit. Many divers carry 30 or 40 cubic foot cylinders with a single regulator as a backup to whatever back gas they have. While coldwater regs are the standard around here, freeze ups and free flows can still happen. I’m under the impression it is easier (and safer?) to give another diver your pony bottle and ascend together but unconnected, compared to doing the standard sharing of an octo, which limits mobility and puts more gas flowing through the first stage.

I am interested in your two cents. Do you have experience with pony bottles? and at what point should recreational divers stay away extra gear that they may not have been trained properly to use?

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Reply to  Jonah Casimir
8 months ago

Ponies are quite common here in the UK as well as twins, but, they’re usually fixed to your back. In Europe you can often find Y valves on single cylinders so you can fit two 1st stages to a single cylinder to reduce airflow on each 1st stage. I prefer the redundancy of a separate cylinder like a back or sidemounted cylinder.

In my experience of donating to an OOA diver it’s easiest to just donate the 2nd stage and keep the cylinder attached to yourself the donor. Handing over a cylinder runs the risk of dropping it and it’s going to change both divers buoyancy. Even when the reg failed on a calm and competent buddy of mine, we ascended together. a nice long hose helps with that.

Chris Philhower
Chris Philhower
8 months ago

Thank you. I always wondered how they worked.

Karl Mason
Karl Mason
8 months ago

Cool , fun and educational , the history and function of diving and equipment. More double hose regulators in the uk!

Yggdrasil42
Yggdrasil42
8 months ago

Woohoo! Thanks for showing us the inside Mark. No bubbles in your face seems like a big benefit.

Scuba_steve73
Scuba_steve73
8 months ago

Im guessing they are not being mass produced now ia that they are not deemed to be the future of diving again…Okay so its a integrated first and second stage… okay so if your on single clyinder on a normal set up, and an o ring goes on a modern stage 1 your second stages are going to be soon useless once air runs out. Wish Apeks would bring them back. I would buy one just for the reason gas is vented behind you. Dont like the style of the Kraken. Wonder how muchl more difficult it is to breath. Millions of miles away from my mtx rc lol. But really fancy trying one for sure.

Lachlan Briggs
Lachlan Briggs
8 months ago

I’ve got a 2005 Aqualung Mistral LE double hose regulator and absolutely love it. Might not be the easiest to use or the easiest breathing regulator, but I love being able to have no bubbles in my vision and also still have the ability to use my air integrated dive computer. Some purists out there might say it’s just a no thoughts gimmick, but there’s enough modern implementations and it makes underwater video work a much smoother experience so I definitely recommend trying a twin hose regulator if you get the chance

catchbay
catchbay
8 months ago

#askmark Are there simple inlet valves for buoyancy wings? Similar to what is used with drysuits or an adapter ring that would allow a drysuit valve to be used with the wing? An Aqualung Axiom i3 BCD style solution would be great.

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Reply to  catchbay
8 months ago

They do exist however, it tends to be in dedicated bladders because both the inflator valve and bladder port use male threads. The only example I can think of is the Dive Rite No Mount BC. It’s a simple bladder made to wrap around your cylinder and adjust it’s buoyancy which uses a drysuit style valve.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen an adaptor but, there may be one out there somewhere.

Sam Moyers
Sam Moyers
9 months ago

Yes Alec has several videos about vintage double hose regulators.
https://youtu.be/e0MK-M0Vm2o
As well as “Sea Hunt Remembered”, which is what you were referring to with the reenacted underwater fight scenes. They have a reunion almostyearly in Florida where the TV series did a lot of footage.

Circle H Scuba
Circle H Scuba
8 months ago

I actually got to dive and disasseble a DA Aqua Master double hose regulator a few weeks ago and posted a video about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPPaG0expu8

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